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goodbye to DA

Sun Apr 16, 2006, 11:05 AM
waah! it's goodbye to DA... that new rights agreement that you get when you submit work is too too much. i'm not a lawyer, i don't know exactly what all that yadda yadda means... but i might like to sell my work someday. when the submit button is telling me that DA can

display, copy, [yadda yadda], and electronically or otherwise publish any or all of the Artist Materials, including any part of them, and to include them in compilations for publication, and

sublicense to any other person or company any of the licensed rights in the Artist Materials,

etc etc etc. that sounds to me like waaay too much to give over to DA.

but i'll miss y'all! you've been very kind. i'll miss your generosity & your general oddballness... i think i bought a subscription here (can't remember) for a while (maybe 6 months?) so anyway i'll check in to say hi & see what y'all are up to. meanwhile i'll be posting my work at [link] . ya, they have a rights notice too, but at least it's in english :-)

goodbye! farewell! hasta! zaijian! sayoonara!

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~Quesi:iconQuesi: Apr 16, 2006, 11:15:22 AM
Oh, goodbye. T_T
Aw, man, I can't get to the link!

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"I dreamed of being part of the stories- even terrifying ones, even horror stories- because at least the girls in stories were alive before they died." -Francesca Lia Block
~SlideBeneathTheCity:iconSlideBeneathTheCity: Apr 16, 2006, 11:28:11 AM
wtf i didnt know it came up with that :/
that's really ridiculous
im gonna read it now
^SparrowSong:iconSparrowSong: Apr 16, 2006, 11:37:14 AM
I think `justthorne worked to clarify that to make it more fair to the artists...? Ah well. Nice to know your work!
~SlideBeneathTheCity:iconSlideBeneathTheCity: Apr 16, 2006, 11:40:03 AM
i just read it and to me it says that da has the non-exclusive right to include your work in any publication etc until the termination of the agreement
you can terminate the agreement by deleting the submission (then they can't use your submission), which is more than likely what you'd have to do if you wanted to publish a deviation in another format anyway
i dont see a problem, unless i've read a different agreement (submit --> submission policy)
*Ryandake:iconRyandake: Apr 16, 2006, 11:43:00 AM
maybe, but see... i'm not a lawyer. i can guess what that all means, but i don't know what that all means. and boy would i be kicking myself in the butt if someobdy wanted to pay me for this stuff but refused because DA somehow had abrogated rights.
*Ryandake:iconRyandake: Apr 16, 2006, 11:43:38 AM
it's not up quite yet... give me til tomorrow :-)
*Ryandake:iconRyandake: Apr 16, 2006, 11:44:38 AM
i dunno, but it scares me. i'll drop in on your gallery from time to time! thanks for all your encouragement and your kindness :-)
~SlideBeneathTheCity:iconSlideBeneathTheCity: Apr 16, 2006, 11:49:47 AM
tbh i think you're being a little tiny bit paranoid :). It's written in English and it makes logical sense, as well as being what I'd have assumed DA would set up anyway - they're not likely to cheat us out of any potential earnings since as soon as the community realised it they'd all jump ship. Did you read something else which said different to my interpretation? Removing all your stuff would be horrible for us who want to read it, since I can't be bothered to bookmark your site :)
*Ryandake:iconRyandake: Apr 16, 2006, 12:40:22 PM
maybe, could be... i don't think DA is being evil or will try to profit from my work, i just worry about what legal entanglements may come from publishers. there are already lots of writers worried about first-publication clauses--oftentimes publishers will ask for exclusive, one-time, first publication rights--and does that mean if it's been published on the web, that right is gone? see, i dunno. i'm not a lawyer. again, here are the parts that bug me:

display, copy, [yadda yadda], and electronically or otherwise publish any or all of the Artist Materials, including any part of them, and to include them in compilations for publication, and

sublicense to any other person or company any of the licensed rights in the Artist Materials,

i just have no idea how this would play out with publishing contracts.

i'll be sorry to lose the support of the DA community, and kind readers. but i gotta do what i think will be best for the future possibility of making actual money from this stuff...
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